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Post by panther on Apr 19, 2008 17:54:02 GMT -4
wait a second! how can you go call palmetto out on the spring sting? yes they were supposed to be good this year and they are! you say they got dominated at the spring sting? they had a good performance and were inches away from playing brother rice!
Palmetto def. Jupiter 25-15 25-19 Palmetto def. Douglas 25-11 25-16 Palmetto def. Oviedo 25-11 25-16 BM def. Palmetto 19-25 25-20 15-10 CG def. Palmetto 25-22 30-28
yes they lost but how can you say they were dominated? they did not have a good game against BM and from all the talk i heard about everyone being impressed with BM it sounds like they played out of their minds... yes they were missing one of their players but we were missing one of our key players as well! then playing Gibbons right after we lost and they lost, it wasnt that exciting of a match. they were down from lossing to brother rice and we were down cause we shoulda beat BM, come on we beat them 25-19 the first set and let it slip away. Not saying we deserved to win by any means, im just saying by no way did we get DOMINATED like you say! Way out of line! And from what it sounds like, BM is playing the best ball from all the central florida teams out there right now! with lyman loosing to university and olympia loosing two matches at the jungle queen... good luck to all you central florida teams, but i think it is BS to be calling out teams or saying south florida isnt strong, because we do have some kids, teams, AND programs that can play ball!!!
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Post by the truth on Apr 19, 2008 19:08:08 GMT -4
i dont get it Guest Re: Best Players for positions « Reply #76 Today at 9:18am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i dont get it. someone please explain to me why everyone from south florida thinks it is always more dominant. u guys have 2 good teams a year and everyone else is garbage. last year it was river and coral park, gibbons was ok at best. the only reason u guys think ur better is because 6 south teams go to states and only 2 go from cfl. seriously, palmetto was supposed to be good and they got dominated by bm at the spring sting. so please explain why south florida is better. wow, gibbons is good this year.....who else? Top Teams in the state year by year, not sure if you were around but these were the title contenders...
2003- Southwest 31-0 Killian 22-5 (anyone on that sw team will tell you, the hardest matches all year were against killian) Cypress Creek (state finals) 25-4 Northeast (final four) 24-4 Coral Park (final four) 23-4 Timber Creek 24-1 Royal Palm Beach 23-3
5 of top 7 teams from south florida
2004- Lyman 25-5 Northeast25-2 Southwest 25-4 Timber Creek 25-2 Killian (nasty ass team, shedricks senior year,but couldnt find their record) Spanish River 21-5 St Thomas 21-6
once again top 5 of 7 from south florida
2005- Gibbons 31-0 Timber Creek 25-3 BM 23-7 Westminster 24-4 SW 22-4 Killian 21-3 Pace 25-3
again 5 of top 7 teams from south florida
2006 Spanish River 28-2 Southwest 28-2 Lake Howell 22-6 BM 23-5 Gibbons 24-3 (really only 5 teams competing for the state title that year)
strongest central florida year (percentage wise) with 2 of top 5 state contenders
2007 Spanish River 27-3 (undefeated in florida) Killian 22-5 (only team to take a set from spanish river at states, and it was the first set) Dr Phillips 26-4 Coral Park 24-3 Lake Mary 25-2 Bishop Moore 25-5 Sunset 24-4 Southwest 20-4 Gibbons 19-6
with 6 of 9 teams coming from south florida
now i know that there are more south florida teams and we should have more of a chace to win states, its given... but we are more dominant because we have more strong teams competing for a state title than you do every year. granted last year nobody was really on spanish rivers level cause they only lost 3 sets the whole year in the state of florida. but if you look at this list, i dont think that you can really add or take any team off, cause these teams were more or less on the same level as each other.
this year is a whole nother story... i think there are probably 4 strong favorates, but in reality, there can be up to 15 teams that can get on a run and really play ball to compete this year for that title. one of the reasons is that there arent dominant teams or dominant players going D1
but my real point is that south florida does have more than "2 good teams a year" and we ARE that much more dominant than central florida... and we should be because we have that many more teams. it is not fair to compair the two because we have more teams. you guys have a good thing going there with your orlando gold! you have had that club program for years and it starts at a young age... south florida has had random club teams but nothing to the extent of what orlando gold has. not to say they have better players for gold, but they have more kids that have an oportunity to play year round. which is what south florida is now trying to develop. the sons are probably the biggest program (in terms of club teams and club players) that southflorida has ever had, but its still not as many teams as orlando gold. it doest mean that orlando has better players it just means that there is more money out there and more support to play year around, which south florida is trying to develop.
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Post by get it on Apr 19, 2008 19:15:49 GMT -4
i dont get it Guest Re: Best Players for positions « Reply #76 Today at 9:18am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i dont get it. someone please explain to me why everyone from south florida thinks it is always more dominant. u guys have 2 good teams a year and everyone else is garbage. last year it was river and coral park, gibbons was ok at best. the only reason u guys think ur better is because 6 south teams go to states and only 2 go from cfl. seriously, palmetto was supposed to be good and they got dominated by bm at the spring sting. so please explain why south florida is better. wow, gibbons is good this year.....who else? Top Teams in the state year by year, not sure if you were around but these were the title contenders... 2003- Southwest 31-0 Killian 22-5 (anyone on that sw team will tell you, the hardest matches all year were against killian) Cypress Creek (state finals) 25-4 Northeast (final four) 24-4 Coral Park (final four) 23-4 Timber Creek 24-1 Royal Palm Beach 23-3 5 of top 7 teams from south florida 2004- Lyman 25-5 Northeast25-2 Southwest 25-4 Timber Creek 25-2 Killian (nasty ass team, shedricks senior year,but couldnt find their record) Spanish River 21-5 St Thomas 21-6 once again top 5 of 7 from south florida 2005- Gibbons 31-0 Timber Creek 25-3 BM 23-7 Westminster 24-4 SW 22-4 Killian 21-3 Pace 25-3 again 5 of top 7 teams from south florida 2006 Spanish River 28-2 Southwest 28-2 Lake Howell 22-6 BM 23-5 Gibbons 24-3 (really only 5 teams competing for the state title that year) strongest central florida year (percentage wise) with 2 of top 5 state contenders 2007 Spanish River 27-3 (undefeated in florida) Killian 22-5 (only team to take a set from spanish river at states, and it was the first set) Dr Phillips 26-4 Coral Park 24-3 Lake Mary 25-2 Bishop Moore 25-5 Sunset 24-4 Southwest 20-4 Gibbons 19-6 with 6 of 9 teams coming from south florida now i know that there are more south florida teams and we should have more of a chace to win states, its given... but we are more dominant because we have more strong teams competing for a state title than you do every year. granted last year nobody was really on spanish rivers level cause they only lost 3 sets the whole year in the state of florida. but if you look at this list, i dont think that you can really add or take any team off, cause these teams were more or less on the same level as each other. this year is a whole nother story... i think there are probably 4 strong favorates, but in reality, there can be up to 15 teams that can get on a run and really play ball to compete this year for that title. one of the reasons is that there arent dominant teams or dominant players going D1 but my real point is that south florida does have more than "2 good teams a year" and we ARE that much more dominant than central florida... and we should be because we have that many more teams. it is not fair to compair the two because we have more teams. you guys have a good thing going there with your orlando gold! you have had that club program for years and it starts at a young age... south florida has had random club teams but nothing to the extent of what orlando gold has. not to say they have better players for gold, but they have more kids that have an oportunity to play year round. which is what south florida is now trying to develop. the sons are probably the biggest program (in terms of club teams and club players) that southflorida has ever had, but its still not as many teams as orlando gold. it doest mean that orlando has better players it just means that there is more money out there and more support to play year around, which south florida is trying to develop. ok, it doesnt matter how many southern teams or central teams go to the state tournament, all that matters is the best team will win and south florida has definately dominated, even though only 2 central teams have a chance at states those teams still havent been winning. point proven
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Post by you are gay on Apr 19, 2008 19:18:13 GMT -4
ok of course south florida has more teams in state tourny u idiot. only 2 can go from central florida. we eliminate the other good teams in central florida. so you dont get to see the other good centrasl florida teams sense a central florida team has to eliminate them. also i dont get how you say there is more money out there to play for gold. makes no sense. and most guys dont play year around. alot of guys either play another sport and dont play winter or get a job to save up for summer. so dont make excuses why gold does better.
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Post by omg on Apr 19, 2008 19:22:00 GMT -4
yes south florida does usually have the best team in the state. but central florida has more great teams just they have to get eliminated with the shortage of central florida teams aloud to go to states for example: they year lake howell lost to river in 5. just in lake howells district tournament there was 2 games that went to 5. boone beat timber creek in 5. and then boone went on to lose to lake howell in 5 16-14 with a miss serve on game point for boone. so it shows that timbercreek or boone could of easily almost done the same thing lake howell did but they dont get the chance too
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Post by the truth on Apr 19, 2008 19:30:55 GMT -4
i have been around since before there was a state title, been a part of florida volleyball every year and i know who are the best teams around and who is competing... who else was strong what year in central florida? cause if i heard of them or they were having a good year, i put it down... i thought it was very clear which teams from orldando were good each year and which ones werent!
and about the money thing, im just saying it seems that orlando parents are more supportive and can afford it more than south florida teams, dade in particular... which is why more broward kids play than dade kids. between the cost of living, the way society is, how HUGE football and basketball are down there... its hard for the sons and other club programs to start up
im just saying that you DO have a good thing going on up there with gold and i love how u can get so many teams together and players that can play ball. i just want to see the sport grow, expand and get more exposure, become that big sport like it is in chicago!
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Post by the truth on Apr 19, 2008 19:32:13 GMT -4
omg... you are right, i forgot how competative that district was that year! my apoligies i do remember that!
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Post by nick on Apr 19, 2008 19:42:17 GMT -4
Your long list is of teams who made it to the state tournament that year. If you realized that teams like Boone, Timber Creek, Lake Mary, Dr. Phillips and other teams that didn't get to make it every year however teams like Wellington, Columbus, and Sunset made it you would see the point that people from CFL are making. Yes, South Florida is good every year, but while you have an opportunity for 6 teams to make it to states every year, our state tournament begins in districts when teams start knocking out other teams that would finish in first in a lot of districts in the South.
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Post by humanshovel on Apr 19, 2008 19:49:18 GMT -4
i agree with nick...you send garbage teams like wellington to states who didnt deserve to be there....we have two maybe three good districts...if we spread out our top teams over five or six districts then we would look stronger at states...
and winning a state title is not LUCK...whoever calls lymans title LUCK is a retard...
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Post by noobhater on Apr 19, 2008 20:11:44 GMT -4
i agree with nick...you send garbage teams like wellington to states who didnt deserve to be there....we have two maybe three good districts...if we spread out our top teams over five or six districts then we would look stronger at states... and winning a state title is not LUCK...whoever calls lymans title LUCK is a retard... no one said it was luck you noob...it was a bad system the way they forced the state final right after a semi final that went 5 for the bagillionth time. sayy waaa cry about it all you want but it was a bad system and they learned from it and now there is ample time for both teams to rest and regain energy for the fight that the state final should be.
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Post by cp on Apr 19, 2008 20:21:47 GMT -4
and by coral park do u mean vidal? coral park had alot more than vidal last year. the bigger middle (martinez) was also a big force for cp. the rs, while not as consistent as vidal was able to put balls down when he needed to and benji was the second outside who was a big part of the defense and serve recieve and was able to get his kills too. and as much as everyone talked nuts about him, the setter(who just signed with missouri baptist) was a big part of the run that team too.
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Post by joke on Apr 19, 2008 21:21:28 GMT -4
hahaha that setter sucked. didnt he tape like all his fingers. he had horrible hands and his sets wernt good. and i dont kno who has even heard of that skool. i bet you the state champions this year would kill that school he went to
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Post by what happened on Apr 19, 2008 22:28:29 GMT -4
there was a good 2 hrs. btwn the games...it wasn't right after dip shiitt. 2 hrs is a good amount of rest. and a 15-5 victory in game 5 isn't luck: its skill.
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Post by i hate dumb ppl on Apr 19, 2008 23:17:17 GMT -4
there was a good 2 hrs. btwn the games...it wasn't right after dip shiitt. 2 hrs is a good amount of rest. and a 15-5 victory in game 5 isn't luck: its skill. dude...you got a lot of balls calling me a dip shiittt when you dont even know what happened...your probably too young to know, weren't at fiu that day watching, or are some coccky (misspelled on purpose so you can see what i meant) little moron who thinks he knows everything...at fiu in 2004, as soon as northeast finished their match against southwest...lyman started to warm up...thats what happened, thats fact, thats the truth...so get your stuff straight before you come on this board looking like an idiot. your right 15-5 isnt luck...its exhaustion at its best example after 10 straight sets any old player from that time any one that was there watching can tell you...so shut up
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Post by my badand FU on Apr 19, 2008 23:23:36 GMT -4
A) my bad a friend told me different.
B) dude, you are the biggest YO MONtard i've ever heard. the way you throw around excuses for a team that apparantly wasn't that deep? wow. you know what, nothing i say will change your mind, but here are the facts: Lyman won. Northeast had 6 players, right? well, if one was tired, the others shoulda stepped up. not all 6 players could've been that tired. and lyman had 3-count them-3 good players. apparantly, they alone could beat that team. they won. accept it. move on. it wasn't luck. skill got them there; grit won them that game.
C) no duh South Florida has one more, you have rolled through some of the best all-around players in florida And you provide over 70% of the teams in the playoffs. Central Florida is rising. and frankly, it is up for grabs this year. i'm not impressed with the south teams, but they keep it together. central florida impresses me, but most good teams this year don't have finals experience.
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