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Post by David Crowder on Dec 16, 2011 0:30:15 GMT -4
Not sure if this topic has been beat to death in previous years but who is was the BEST high school team to come from Florida since 2000.
Nominations can be either state champions or near misses.
We have several choices as many of the state champions have had undefeated seasons.
I will nominate the 2009 state champion Timber Creek team
State Champions
Undefeated
Defeated defending undefeated Miami Southwest
Team setter had previously been the libero but took over duties
when the starting setter became unavailable
Defeated the 2010 State Champion to be team in the State Semis
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Post by SW03 on Dec 19, 2011 14:18:48 GMT -4
Southwest 2003 hands down!
then would be the Spanish River teams
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Post by coachira on Dec 20, 2011 11:26:31 GMT -4
Having played both the 09 Timber Creek team and losing in their tournament 25-21, 24-26, 16-14 and playing the Southwest team
from 03 and losing to them twice that year, I would say the Southwest team at that point was a more dominant team, although the River teams with Kyle and Gustavo were also impressive as those two, along with the complemetary players could hang with anyone!!
Pre 2000 i would say either the Douglas team with George Romain,
and the Gibbons team with Mike D. could have competed with them all.
Just some more food for thought!!
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TOP 10 TEAMS SINCE 03
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Post by TOP 10 TEAMS SINCE 03 on Dec 20, 2011 13:39:25 GMT -4
I think its fair to say pre and post 03 since 03 is when the inaugural state championship season.
1. SW- 03
2. River- 07
3. River- 06
4. Gibbons- 08 (pre-nick accident)
5. TC- 09
6. Gibbons- 05
7. BM- 10
8. SW- 08
9. Northeast- 04
10. SW- 04
Honorable mention (no particular order):
Lyman- 04
BM- 05
TC- 05
Lake Howel- 06
Olympia- 08
SW- 09
SW- 10
Seminole Ridge- 11
McCarthy- 11
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Post by Labour of love on Dec 20, 2011 16:19:38 GMT -4
I think its fair to say pre and post 03 since 03 is when the inaugural state championship season. 1. SW- 03 2. River- 07 3. River- 06 4. Gibbons- 08 (pre-nick accident) 5. TC- 09 6. Gibbons- 05 7. BM- 10 8. SW- 08 9. Northeast- 04 10. SW- 04 Honorable mention (no particular order): Lyman- 04 BM- 05 TC- 05 Lake Howel- 06 Olympia- 08 SW- 09 SW- 10 Seminole Ridge- 11 McCarthy- 11 How does a team that loses to river in 06 by 2 points and one of the best games played at state ranked so low? And also the TC undeafeated team, is not that good compared to the other teams listed, yea they won it and congrats to them, but Witt the talent level the way it is now compared to what it was those type of teams wldnt stand a chance, you can argue all you want but it is facts...kids in high school now have no clue what the level of Florida used to be...it is a joke compared to the rest of the country there is maybe a 8 good players in the entire state....it's just funny to see this...personally I wld move TC and bm lower based on the talent level play now than when it was because if we are going based off who won it all hen it's stupid to have Seminole ridge not even in the top 10. |
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Post by hater on Dec 21, 2011 14:02:41 GMT -4
you are ignorant to say that the teams these days wouldnt stand a chance compared to what the level was. teams these days are competing at a higher level nationally. more of our club teams are qualifying, playing and competing at the open level. we are sending more kids off to play college ball.
then you go off and contradict yourself and say seminole ridge should be ranked higher. seminole ridge had a great setter and great middle and a bunch of role players. i think compared to other teams in the top 10 they are just a slight tier lower.
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Post by Labour of love on Dec 21, 2011 18:21:05 GMT -4
you are ignorant to say that the teams these days wouldnt stand a chance compared to what the level was. teams these days are competing at a higher level nationally. more of our club teams are qualifying, playing and competing at the open level. we are sending more kids off to play college ball. then you go off and contradict yourself and say seminole ridge should be ranked higher. seminole ridge had a great setter and great middle and a bunch of role players. i think compared to other teams in the top 10 they are just a slight tier lower. Retread what I said, I said if we are going based on who won a state championship then Seminole ridge should be ranked higher...Florida volleyball is a joke right now and so is the highschool and club level of boys volleyball...I'm not hating at all I'm congratulate the winners and those who go play college ball, it's common knowledge that Orlando gold in the past would embarrass Orlando gold of now...Florida sons in the past would embarrass the club teams down there now...it's just in a slump...you but these "great" players now against players in the past it's not even a debate, if u can't agree that the level of play has gone down tremendously then your blind. This is a subject that can be argued forever and the fact is that there will never be a way to prove the top teams since 03. Once again I'm not a hater just a realist. I can't take away championships cause they did earn that but to say teams now are better or being ranked higher is just nonsense. |
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Post by Well on Dec 22, 2011 15:17:43 GMT -4
You also have to remember that talent is spread out way more then it used to be. You have clubs such as Longwood, OBV, Matrix, Matadors, Tampa Bay. It used to be that everyone in a certain area played for ONE club. Now the talent is more evenly spread, but we STILL have teams qualifying for open division. Look at it this way, last year when the best surrounding talent played on one team (OBV18s) they were hands down the best team on the East Coast. Plus, you have Team Florida Boys International team, who at HP last year came in 4th at HP, being the highest ranked regional volleyball team, and lost to eventual champion that had a florida product (CF), USAV Youth A2 Red. Then they lost to another USAV Youth A2 team in 5, that had 2 Florida Products (McCall and Specian) I think the drop in GREAT teams is because of the spread of talent
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Post by disagree on Dec 22, 2011 15:28:39 GMT -4
you are ignorant to say that the teams these days wouldnt stand a chance compared to what the level was. teams these days are competing at a higher level nationally. more of our club teams are qualifying, playing and competing at the open level. we are sending more kids off to play college ball. then you go off and contradict yourself and say seminole ridge should be ranked higher. seminole ridge had a great setter and great middle and a bunch of role players. i think compared to other teams in the top 10 they are just a slight tier lower. Retread what I said, I said if we are going based on who won a state championship then Seminole ridge should be ranked higher...Florida volleyball is a joke right now and so is the highschool and club level of boys volleyball...I'm not hating at all I'm congratulate the winners and those who go play college ball, it's common knowledge that Orlando gold in the past would embarrass Orlando gold of now...Florida sons in the past would embarrass the club teams down there now...it's just in a slump...you but these "great" players now against players in the past it's not even a debate, if u can't agree that the level of play has gone down tremendously then your blind. This is a subject that can be argued forever and the fact is that there will never be a way to prove the top teams since 03. Once again I'm not a hater just a realist. I can't take away championships cause they did earn that but to say teams now are better or being ranked higher is just nonsense. Yes I agree that orlando gold in the past would beat orlando gold now but: A. the level of all orlando ball might be down a notch I would agree there but my point is as a state the level is up. B. there are a lot more club teams now so the good players are more spread out. C. there are more club teams and the average high school player is much better now. I would disagree that the florida sons in the past would embarrass the club teams down here now. A. Last year OBV placed top 10 in the nation in the open level. Not a single florida sons team has done that to my knowledge. B. In the past there would be one or two teams competing at the open level representing florida, last year you had OBV, OG, FSVBC and Tampa all competing in open in differant age levels! |
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Post by sons on Dec 22, 2011 22:50:24 GMT -4
In 2007, the Sons 18's team did rank in the top 10th in open at national, placing all of their players in college(Division 1 and 2). Kyle Friend was part of that team.
But yeah, not too many clubs were available back then
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Post by opinion on Mar 17, 2012 0:04:05 GMT -4
I agree with dave about the TC 2009 team. Having watched most of the previous winners they were the most well rounded but the Spanish River teams and Southwest are very close, but have to give the nod to the TC 09 team
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Post by Alum on Mar 24, 2012 23:18:37 GMT -4
Without a doubt, 2003 SW team. No one was even close to beating them and it was the first time states happened. 2009 Timber Creek is nothing compared to the talent of the 2003 SW team. I would even go to say the Spanish Rivers era and the Gibbons team were better.
- My two cents
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Post by yea on Mar 24, 2012 23:34:52 GMT -4
Without a doubt, 2003 SW team. No one was even close to beating them and it was the first time states happened. 2009 Timber Creek is nothing compared to the talent of the 2003 SW team. I would even go to say the Spanish Rivers era and the Gibbons team were better. - My two cents Thank for not being stupid like all these kids now, thats a good answer, a majority teams after 2007, cldnt hang with teams from 03-07. |
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Post by old school on Apr 3, 2012 0:19:01 GMT -4
spanish river back in '01 and before. they used to dominate teams. and it was a one man show with jeff soler dominating. most of you probably don't remember but i played against him and that was back in the day when there were no good coaches around. wellington also had some dominating seasons until that river team came along. they always were solid even with ira coaching them. the guys who all played had to learn the game on their own. all the coaches were just school teachers who filled the position to pick up some extra cash. there was really no strong club situation going on at that point. all those guys would rather go play a beach tourny than go play indoor volleyball. guys like sebastian, kent, mike d., neil, and so on. those days had the best pure athletic volleyball players with a strong lacking in coaching. they got by on pure athleticism. they are the guys who paved the way for you younger guys so that you could have a strong club system now. so tip your hats to those guys.
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