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Post by Spanishland on Jun 1, 2008 12:41:21 GMT -4
To the idiot that wrote:
" i dont know how they play ball in spanish land but thats not what we do in the united states"
I am not sure how you got internet access in that broken down trailer you live in. There is no such place as "spanish land" and by the way "mr. retard" United States is always capitalized.
The south lost the war almost 150 years ago but you can keep hope alive by flying your flag high.
Do we really need post this kind of garbage (my post included)?
Are Latino teams the only ones that talk trash? I think not.
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Post by tcwolf on Jun 1, 2008 12:49:36 GMT -4
i think bm should be up there. they lost to apopka because their setter broke his ankle the day before the match. so they had to move some1 who hasnt set in a match and he had to set and put another sophmore at outside. and they did almost beat gibbons. and lyman and olympia beat every1 in central fl
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Post by nick on Jun 1, 2008 15:42:01 GMT -4
If the top teams from CFL were even in thatGirl's R UStourney, Sunset wouldn't have seen the gold bracket. TC was the strongest CFL team there and they were about the 5th best team in CFL. You say Killian was a top SoFla team, my team would have wrecked them and we didn't even make it to states because we had to get through harder teams than teams like Wellington and freakin Columbus.
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Post by south on Jun 1, 2008 21:09:00 GMT -4
i dont get why BM is so far down when they should of beat gibbons with they best hitter hurt. they took 1st 2 and lost the last 3 in close games. and spanish river killian and palmetto are not better then alot of central florida teams. d**n apopka or lake mary could beat those 3 teams. and if you say apopka didnt do good at the spring sting go ahead but that was without 2 main hitters. and if you want to do the pre nick thing for gibbons then you should do that for timbercreek. i played them with peter and that teams was solid and were a threat everywhere. i guess they learned alot from that olympia game during their first game because they improved quick, and olympia also set ian every ball so olympia was at their best and almost lost. but oh well. season is over. congrats southwest. how can you say that LM or Apopka could beat spanish river Palmetto or killian those two teams are both ran by one player. LM should change their name to robbie and Apopka should be named caleb killian palmetto and river all have 4-5 guys who can play. LM struggled with cooper city who should be renamed travis. and im not judgeing these teams by tournys im judgeing by districts regionals and states the only time that matters
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Post by bentc on Jun 1, 2008 21:11:54 GMT -4
i dont get why BM is so far down when they should of beat gibbons with they best hitter hurt. they took 1st 2 and lost the last 3 in close games. and spanish river killian and palmetto are not better then alot of central florida teams. d**n apopka or lake mary could beat those 3 teams. and if you say apopka didnt do good at the spring sting go ahead but that was without 2 main hitters. and if you want to do the pre nick thing for gibbons then you should do that for timbercreek. i played them with peter and that teams was solid and were a threat everywhere. i guess they learned alot from that olympia game during their first game because they improved quick, and olympia also set ian every ball so olympia was at their best and almost lost. but oh well. season is over. congrats southwest. how can you say that LM or Apopka could beat spanish river Palmetto or killian those two teams are both ran by one player. LM should change their name to robbie and Apopka should be named caleb killian palmetto and river all have 4-5 guys who can play. LM struggled with cooper city who should be renamed travis. and im not judgeing these teams by tournys im judgeing by districts regionals and states the only time that matters yes caled is APK best all around player but obviously haavent seen APk's middle basically put his waist at the top of the net. hes ridiculous and that team isnt a one man team.
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Post by bentc on Jun 1, 2008 21:13:15 GMT -4
how can you say that LM or Apopka could beat spanish river Palmetto or killian those two teams are both ran by one player. LM should change their name to robbie and Apopka should be named caleb killian palmetto and river all have 4-5 guys who can play. LM struggled with cooper city who should be renamed travis. and im not judgeing these teams by tournys im judgeing by districts regionals and states the only time that matters yes caled is APK best all around player but obviously haavent seen APk's middle basically put his waist at the top of the net. hes ridiculous and that team isnt a one man team. i spelled just about everything wrong lol i spelled caleb wrong and i meant u obviously havent seen apk's middles. that shows my tc education lol
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Post by tcwolf on Jun 1, 2008 23:30:52 GMT -4
haha there u go ben haha. but lake mary also has pat and ari. 2 gret players. now those 3 are pretty much the team haha. but for apopka they have a strong all around team. caleb is a beast. but their middle jumps higher then any vball player and rips middles apart. and brandon the outside is also a strong player. good setter but he is just short. and palmetto and river i agree are a very well rounded team. but i heard killian is all about walter. they lose without him
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Post by alvaro on Jun 2, 2008 1:07:36 GMT -4
If the top teams from CFL were even in thatGirl's R UStourney, Sunset wouldn't have seen the gold bracket. TC was the strongest CFL team there and they were about the 5th best team in CFL. You say Killian was a top SoFla team, my team would have wrecked them and we didn't even make it to states because we had to get through harder teams than teams like Wellington and freakin Columbus. i dont like to resort to talking smack...and i wont...bc as a coach, it makes me look bad, which obviously nick you dont care about, it shows a lack of class and reflects badly on your program. But in this case Im going to go ahead and defend our boys...You say your team would have wrecked killian, thats great...everyones entitled to their opinion...im sorry your team didnt get to states but make no mistake, by no means do we have an easy road. To get out of our region...we had to play the winner of D15 which was the winner of southwest and sunset...to get to states you gotta get past them...then in the quarterfinal game we played mccarthy who had to beat gibbons (im sure you think theyre a pushover too) to get to states...and then when we came out against river we took the first set from them...im sure BM kicked the snot out of river...oh wait...river was undefeated in FL...whether you played them or not...no one was touchin river last year and we at least gave em a scare. I talked to kyle after the game, and he was like I was so pissed when we lost that first set, I didnt come here to lose...I think we all know what an angry Kyle Friend can do...we didnt play wellington, we didnt play columbus to get to state...Coral Park has an easy road to state...not taking anything away from them they were a sick team...but that region is barren only a couple decent teams...btw sunset beat southwest to get out of district, i believe southwest beat Dr. Phillips in palm beach, who was the state runner up...just something to think about...
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Post by alvarohomo on Jun 2, 2008 1:24:41 GMT -4
for 1 you say you dont talk crap but you started off by putting nick and his program down which shows your a total dousche and ignorant. and you cant go by the palm beack tournament, look at the spring sting , dp was 3rd behind coral park and lm but then it went backwards in states when coral park beat lm and dp demolished coral park. and see to you guys gibbons was good that year down south but they lost to boone which was 4th in central fl last year. and river def didnt try that hard against killian. i watched that game. also bm vs river at the gibbons tournament was an amazing match where river barely won both games and river played better then, then when they played killian. then boone again who was 4th in central fl lost to river in the gibbons championship and both games went into extra points. so alvaro shut up your team was nothing special and your coaching is even worse
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Post by CP Coach on Jun 2, 2008 7:06:02 GMT -4
I wouldn't even respond to the people who don't identify themselves in their posts.... All I can say is that you guys are lucky here in Florida, where I went to high school they hadn't even heard of high school boys volleyball, it was considered a "girls sport." The fact that different teams are beating each other in the same year point to the fact that the level of play is fairly even. And yes, some teams do have an "easier road" to states, but in the end I think those teams suffer because they don't get to play against high competition consistently in thier districts and it costs them down the road.
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Post by me on Jun 2, 2008 10:56:47 GMT -4
spanish river killian and palmetto would have destroyed the lake mary team i saw in states! sw handled lake mary and (at the end of the year) sw lost to palmetto and took killian out in a close 4 game set. and if lake mary took out apopka, then those three south teams would have beaten apopka even more easily!
i agree that if we are talking about cg at full strength then we should be talking about bm at full strenght, but dissapointingly neither team was (at full strength) at the end of the year... i would have loved to see florida volleyball at its finest at states cause i think both teams would have done well. bm would have given sw a good game and gibbons probably would have taken spanish river (no offense you guys played great) and would have been a sick semis match up against olympia
but its hard to judge what they could have been... although they both had good seasons, i think its only fair to judge them the way they were at the end of the year (with an astrict). i would not want you compairing my team at the begining of the year to the team that we were at the end of the year. therefore, if your team beats my team at the begining of the year, that doesnt neccessarily mean they are going to be better than them at the end of the year. and since they couldnt prove that they were as good as they should be, its hard to rank them higher since they couldnt show off their stuff when it counted
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Post by jbsouthpaw on Jun 2, 2008 11:04:12 GMT -4
I agree with Alvaro's statement about a coach should show restraint about talking about individual players/teams/clubs.
As far as clubs go, Coach Williams has found a great niche for himself and his teams, he has been able to keep kids involved at a low low cost with a great relationship with his school. (some times at Boone, We practiced outside on grass DURING the season because we couldn't get our crappy gym) I wish more schools would do that.
Gold has competed with the big boys around the country since 1990, and that ain't cheap, the coaches and directors are doing the work of what should be a full time employees (Girl's R UShas at least 4 full time employees). I believe the Sons have followed our path, and have quickly caught up, Coach McHugh is a very pasionate coach and only wants the best for his players and club. (I wish I could fund-raise like him)
The Region of USA volleyball has stepped up too, ofering the same programs as the girls, with about %10 of the participants. Coach Dave Nichols is awesome (he played with Karch at UCLA)
Go to the region web-site, Look at tryouts for the state teams. PLAY BEACH, and not just against other kids play against the highest level you can.
Look, to get smarter you go to another level of school. To get better, go to that next level too.
As far as players
If you look at the complete state bracket you will see quite a few 5&4 setters in EVERY region. While I don't think there were the Kyle Friends/Gustavos/Collin Kellys this year, the quality was higher across the board. In year's past you knew who was on the all star teams, starting with maybe 3 years ago it's really been a lot tougher. Even for Player of the year. If you are not playing in the better tournaments, or have a week schedule it could affect your visablity. (like football's BCS)
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Post by alvaro on Jun 2, 2008 11:08:13 GMT -4
for 1 you say you dont talk crap but you started off by putting nick and his program down which shows your a total dousche and ignorant. and you cant go by the palm beack tournament, look at the spring sting , dp was 3rd behind coral park and lm but then it went backwards in states when coral park beat lm and dp demolished coral park. and see to you guys gibbons was good that year down south but they lost to boone which was 4th in central fl last year. and river def didnt try that hard against killian. i watched that game. also bm vs river at the gibbons tournament was an amazing match where river barely won both games and river played better then, then when they played killian. then boone again who was 4th in central fl lost to river in the gibbons championship and both games went into extra points. so alvaro shut up your team was nothing special and your coaching is even worse tremble's right...this guy is pretty brave calling me a homo and not posting his own name...but for the sake of clearing things up...this is what im gonna say... by no means did i mean to put down bishop moore, i was just pointing out that as a coach, talking smack reflects badly on you and them bc your representing the school the second you become a coach. Ive met nick and played against him before and thought he was a cool guy, but i thought he was getting a little out of line for a second inferring we didnt deserve to be at states. if you took offense nick, my bad all i was doing was defendin my boys...they had a hell of a year and were def underrated all year. for this brave kid that can call ppl stuff and not post his name...talk all the smack u want about me, i dunno who you are and i honestly dont care bro have a great time making fun of ppl and not posting your name...i did nothing but state the obvious of what happened last year.
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Post by nick on Jun 2, 2008 12:10:03 GMT -4
No Alvaro, I do not take offense and I agree with you that people should not call somebody out if they aren't going to use their name. I did not mean to bring anything upon myself or my team/club although it looks as if I have done just that haha so I will agree with you on that also. As of right now, I do not coach school nor do I plan on it. The point of my post was to justify CFL because everyone in SoFla has the notion that they have always been better when I do not see that in any way. However, everyone is entitled to their opinion, including everyone down in SoFla so I will no longer express mine in an attempt to change yours. I think it is best that I do not post anymore . Good Luck to everyone in the tournament this weekend.
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Post by cg vs bm on Jun 2, 2008 15:01:44 GMT -4
we are all aware that the level of play was down this year, but i feel we still could have seen much better matches. go ahead, say that injuries are a part of the game and all that bullnuts like you gotta play through it. whatever. 16 year old kids are not supposed to get in car accidents and almost die. at full strength, the 2 best teams in the state this year were CG and BM. thats it. the jungle queen final was epic and a rematch could have been even better. nick went off for 30 kills in the district final i believe and there were no signs of him letting up. belt's setting had been probably the best in the state all year. as for bm, i saw their game vs OT without walsh at the end of the year and although they lost they would have been the most dangerous team in the state with all their pieces. how? mikey couldn't be stopped in the middle, got a kill almost everytime. sam was puttin balls down as always, and lahey was crankin balls like i've never seen him do, putting one 10 foot line on the first play of the game. with walsh, game over. with all their pieces in place, these 2 teams were the best in the state, hands down.
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